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WW

Date:

9/14/2004

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9:08:18 PM

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wayne why is it urgent i is about 3 weeks away

Date:

9/14/2004

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9:15:53 PM

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Miles 2/5 Cotton 11/4 Faulker 7/1 Mapp 7/1 Bromley 14/1 O'Neil 200/1 Fraser 500/1 Meako 100000000000000000000/1 Carter 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000/1 (Based on all running and fit and well on day) Odds from Eddie the Shoe

Date:

9/14/2004

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9:27:57 PM

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Doran you scheister!!! I hope you've been training hard, Franklin's looking as fit as a male version of Jennifer Ellison. He loves it, though may spontaneously combust around keeper's pool.

NC

Date:

9/15/2004

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9:50:27 AM

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has eddie gone mad?

going blind on mappy?

7/1?

i might have to take him up on that!

turlo

Date:

9/15/2004

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12:43:32 PM

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Bill was a chauffeur for VIP guests, but on one instance he had a very important guest. Picking up The Pope from the airport. Bill helped put his bags in the back of the stretched Limo, but the Pope wouldn't get in.

"Can you get in the back your Holiness", asked Bill

"Can I drive today, I've always wanted to drive a Limo", replies the Pope.

Bill worries alot and says, "With all due respect your holiness, if I let you drive, I'll get the sack".

The Pope replies, "No you won't, I'll see to it that you don't. Now let me drive"

Bill reluctantly agrees and lets the Pope get in the driving seat. Immediately, the Pope floors it out of the airport carpark, tyres screeching as they go. Then onto the highway. The Limo flies down the outside lane overtaking everyone. Bill's literally sh*tting himself, knowing he's gonna get caught.

Eventually, the Police pulls them over. Now Bill's really sh**ing it. As the Policeman walks up to the window, he realises it's the Pope driving, and lets him go free. Back at the police station the copper says to his chief, "You'll never guess who I pulled over today"

His chief says, "Who, Michael Johnson?"

"No. Someone bigger than that", says the copper.

"Errr, was it Brad Pitt?"

"No" says the copper, "much bigger than that"

"Was it George Bush?"

"No where near. I think it was god", says the copper.

The chief looks bewildered, "Why do you think that?"

"Because the Pope was the f*cking chauffeur!!"

I thank you.

NC

Date:

9/15/2004

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1:07:36 PM

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RE A & L COMMENTS:

Owls won the event and our B team came 2nd. We had 4 of our top runners missing, which would of gave us the 3rd place team too!

Junior team came 1st

NO MORE COMMENTS REQUIRED ON THIS TOPIC

turlo

Date:

9/15/2004

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2:16:48 PM

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DONT KNOW WHICH PHOTO OF JENNIFER ELLISON YOU'VE GOT CARTER. MUST BE THE ONE WHERE SHES HAD TOO MANY PORTIONS AT GORDON RAMSEYS RESTAURANT!!!BUT THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT. IT DOES FEEL GOOD GOING FROM 13 TO 12 STONE.

IF MAPPS ON FIRST LEG I'LL HAVE A QUID ON HIM

LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS THREE WAY SHOWDOWN CARTER AND DORAN. LETS TRY AND MOVE ON, GET QUICKER AND PULL CRIPIN,MEAKO INTO THE EQUASION. I'M SURE MEAKO SAID I WOULD NEVER BEAT HIM AGAIN?

FRANKO

Date:

9/15/2004

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2:37:35 PM

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Eddie, I will have a fiver on thoroughbread Miles and a fiver on Ryan "the fox" Falkner.Tho mapp on leg one is worth a good bet as is a few quid on outsider bromley with still 10 days to go. Cotton still a month away from being "the man."-A good stayer on any type of "going".Fraser at 500-1 xcelelnt odds but not sure the young colt will be properly treaded in by this time.If it had been xc my bet would have increased to a tenner on "The Fox"

1000-1 bar ww

Date:

9/15/2004

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3:40:24 PM

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i'll bet 2 bottles of old spec on mapp and three on the fat fox!

turlo

Date:

9/15/2004

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4:27:42 PM

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Carter,

Dare I say this but thanks for offering. Franko and I will stay at your place on the Friday night before the race. We must all have the same amount of sleep and prefect prep etc.

Franko, What are you one about, cripin and Meako are beaten already! My sights are beating O'neil light I did last year in Brussels.

You love it Chris!!!

Doran

Date:

9/15/2004

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8:29:17 PM

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Doran and Franko- You're both welcome to stay round mine before the race. Mrs Carter will have the ham sandwich finger buffet ready for supper, followed by intraveinous injections of pure carbs and caffeine. Doran, I like the positivism (is that a word?). I'm sure Chris will love it too!!

Eddie the Shoe- I'll put my right leg on 'not so fat' fox Falkner, and half of my left leg on Mappy, the other half on Cotto. If Milo was as fit as a fiddle, I'd put my right arm on him. As an outside bet, my left arm's going on Wayne.

Cheers, Cartier.

P.S. Franko will be quickest out of me, him and Doran. Possibly quicker than Crippin. Though you never know with Swoop, depends on how many victims have wondered by his house the night before. He tells me all the goings on from the youths on Broughton Astley park. Who's tourched who's car, who's knockin' off with which bird. Swoop's binoculars have never been so greatly used since checking for intruder bats on the outside coffin bunker.

Date:

9/16/2004

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8:56:32 AM

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where has this new found confidence come in my ability carter?

love 2 doran

franko

no reply chris ?

Date:

9/16/2004

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11:19:38 AM

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Not sure Franko!!! (but it takes the pressure off me trying to beat yours and Dorans times!!).

G-g-g-g-g-george.

Right then lads, everyone should bet a finishing time for the A-team, and a list in running order of fastest to slowest OWL, predicted times included. Start the predicting you scheisters!!

Cartier

P.S. Winner gets an all expenses paid car park pass for Bradgate. (Conditions apply- only valid between 9pm to 11pm Tuesday to thursday)

Date:

9/16/2004

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3:05:24 PM

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HERES MINE CARTER YOU SCHEISTER

COTTON, MILES, FALKNER, MAPP, FRASER, ONEILL, MEAKO, FRANKLIN, SWOOP, DORAN, CARTER AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST BROMKNEE. (YOU SAID YOU LIKED BEING THE UNDERDOG)

L8RZ FRANKO

Date:

9/16/2004

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3:46:46 PM

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Going by Franklitington names;-

COTTON, MILES, MAPP, FALKNER, BROMKNEE, FRASER, ONEILL, MEAKO, Doran, SWOOP, Franklin, CARTER.

Franko, you really know how to make me laugh.

Doran

Date:

9/16/2004

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3:47:51 PM

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Cater young sir,

Sounds good, I will take you up on that offer and in return I will come bearing gift for the Mini.

Doran

Date:

9/16/2004

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5:20:21 PM

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Doran, you love it!!!

Also, I love it when The Doran and The franklin are going to be in the same race, it adds a whole dimension to it. A bit like adding peas to steak and chips.

I'm putting Franko down for 19:51 and Doran 19:51.5. I'll probably get 17:31, depends on how the wind's blowing.

Cheers, Cartier.

Date:

9/16/2004

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5:32:27 PM

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SWOOP DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY OPINIONS ON THIS MATTER?

19.51 DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MRS CARTERS FINGER BUFFET WHICH WILL BOOST MY TIME TO 19.40. IS SHE STILL PUTTING EXTRA FAT MAYO IN DORANS SANDWICHES AS PLANNED?

BROMKNEE-20.50 I RECKON

LOVE 2

FRANKO

I SAY ONEILL,DID YOU LADS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT?

Date:

9/16/2004

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5:43:44 PM

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so how much training have you actually done franko?

After the call the other night you just seem to be getting rather confident!

How far is the race exactly?

Doran

Get the miles in.

Date:

9/16/2004

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6:30:23 PM

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Not sure about that Franko.

Maybe the order will be Miles, Cotton, Mapp, Ryan, Brommers, O'neill. With the first four being within 10secs and me 2secs behind the fourth time due to some Irish Leprechaun rugby tackling me at Keepers Pool.

If it wasn't for external interference I would be equal second on time. Yeah.

Brommers

Date:

9/16/2004

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7:44:31 PM

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Evenin all

Ive got some opinion's Franko but i don't really want to big myself up and then say im not running at the last minute, i really want to run even if i run sheeeite. Just dont wanna risk prolonging my injury.

chow

ps here is my prediction

Ryan, Simon, Miles, Mapp, Bromley, Harry

between the BIG 3 of Doran, Franklin and Carter, i predict the order to be carter, Franklin then Doran, although im not sure how much Doran been doing. He may spring a surprise, especially if he's been doing some local Wreake stomp races!

Date:

9/16/2004

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7:48:27 PM

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think doran will hammer fronk

Brommers to run sub 18

turlo

Date:

9/16/2004

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7:51:10 PM

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Yeh i think i might be underestimating Bromley but there all capable of having a great performance and surprising people.

Chow Swoop

Date:

9/16/2004

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7:52:34 PM

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PS Turlo i dont suppose you have the number for the orthotics bloke you saw do you my e-mail address is [email protected],

ps anyone else reading this feel free to send me some free porn

Date:

9/16/2004

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8:14:07 PM

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miles mapp ryan cotton bromley oneil

average time 18.12

Date:

9/16/2004

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10:06:29 PM

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Miles to do 17.20 to 17.30 if back to racing weight. The guy can run 3.45(1500m) amd 1.52(800M) plus as improved since last season X-country. All others similiar to last year.

Che

Date:

9/16/2004

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10:35:22 PM

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can someone tell me the plans are for sunday?

people need to be told of arrangments in advance as they simply will say they need more notice!

once i know i'll gte that info out to everyone

I was not at Bradgate on Sunday so am not sure what was arranged and can't get details out to others who were not there BUT need to know

loving it

turlo

Date:

9/17/2004

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1:09:43 PM

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no response as usual

turlo

Date:

9/17/2004

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3:32:27 PM

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Midland Six Stage predictions:

Miles 17:55, Mapp 18:05, Falkner 18:10, Cotton 18:15, Bromley 18:25, O�Neil 18:40

Total time 1:49:30 Average stage time 18:15

OWLS to finish a close 6th behind Birchfield, Notts, Tipton, Coventry and Charnwood if they can be bothered to field decent teams!!

B string predictions:

Meako, Doran sub 20 mins Franklin, Swoop, Carter sub 20:30 mins Turlo � sub 21 days!!!

Just for the record though Turlo took a short detour around a dog turd near Keepers Pool and strictly speaking ran a different course, thus remaining still unbeaten!!!

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Date:

9/17/2004

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3:51:59 PM

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Very funny

Date:

9/17/2004

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4:25:21 PM

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charnwood?!!!!!

are you having a laugh?

you are actually that stupid?

loved the turlo comments by the way!

turlo

Date:

9/17/2004

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4:43:23 PM

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My contact in Charnwood informs me that Richardson will be running.

Date:

9/17/2004

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5:02:39 PM

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quite interesting Mr Hmmmmmm and not a bad set of predictions.Down to indivs to prove you wrong now.

Whose Richardson,ha?

I agree with you it could be close and we could win it or come 5th.Again its down to the team spirit to find that extra 30secs to get the right side of the divide...there will be no shortage of that.

ww

Date:

9/17/2004

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5:15:28 PM

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Even if Richardson is running its a 6 leg event!

who else they got?

turlo

Date:

9/17/2004

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5:28:28 PM

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what do you mean doran that i sound confident?

of course i am as i'm up against you!!the memories of defeat in the 2k steeple run high i see doran.

lets make sure we all put in a creditable b team performance for the lads that just missed out on the a team .

l8rz franko

p.s is anyone taking a camera as we should get some good photos by the sounds of it? especially of me giving a fat rob orr style performance round keepers pool,

Date:

9/17/2004

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5:57:04 PM

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Re: Charnwood team?

To add to Paul Richardson who will run significantly faster than any OWL there is also Tim Hartley, Robbie Neill, Stephen Mears and Paul Gregory to name but a few. This team would push any OWLS team close and this is before you consider the latest recruit � sub 14:30 5K PB!

Good Luck

Date:

9/17/2004

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6:13:01 PM

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Charnwood mystery man,

Undoubtedly some descent guys but your only hope is that Richardson does run considerably faster than any OWL and you have somehow mastered the human cloning process and bring along the other 5 clones.

Tim is a good lad if he is fit so no disrespect to your other team members, just a bit of banter to add to the occasion you understand.

I presume your 14:30 recruit is currently in that shape? If not we can trump that.

Brommers

Date:

9/17/2004

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10:21:50 PM

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ello,ello,ello

Is anybody at bradgate on sunday or is everyone going to birmingham?If you arent going b'ham then giv me a bell and ill do a run with you at Bradgate.cheers.

That charnwood team sounds well good.yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!They aint got a prair.LOVE 2.

I am running by the way next saturday so what team will i be in?

Happy Birthday Wayne, you schiester!

peace out!

Fraser the Eraser

Date:

9/18/2004

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10:08:13 AM

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SEVEN FOR SUCCESS

1.DEDICATION: The fun merchants,win nothing and never will. 2.DICIPLINE: Not the big stick but planning,organisation and consistency. 3.DILIGENCE: Stay cool.quietly on the case,gaze fixed ahead. 4.DIRECTNESS: Think bold be bold..... 5.DETACHMENT: When you just fail to achieve that P.B. or win that race. Just walk away and get ready for the next attempt/race, don't lose your head. 6.DOGGEDNESS: If at first you don't succeed...... 7.DEFIANCE: Gather yourself affirm your aspiration, go to it again.

Date:

9/18/2004

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1:06:46 PM

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Ok Charnwood fan I do admit you have an improved team on previous years but could you honestly say that Tim Hartley, Robbie Neill, Stephen Mears and Paul Gregory would beat Nick Mapp, Ryan Falkner, Simon Cotton, Paul Miles and Rich Bromley?

I seriously doubt it!

Ian T

Date:

9/18/2004

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10:04:18 PM

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steven mears is running very well at the moment.But is richardson fit and will neil be recovered from his half mara.The bottom line is that in terms of ability and team spirit and every other criteria we are at least 2 leagues above charnwood BUT we have to produce the goods.

Now we shall soon see within our own team who can cut it this season ,now we are being challenged by Charnwood.If we lose to them then the OWLS ought to be deeply embarrassed it will be a total loss of pride and dignity and we will be the laughing stock of leicestershire athletics and we would never again be in a position where we can say what we are 'going to do'

No disrespect to Charnwood....good luck.

ww

Date:

9/18/2004

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10:06:40 PM

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7 for success... you are missing courage,faith, communication and imagination. ww

Date:

9/19/2004

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12:43:10 PM

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I'd like to come along to the forthcoming 6 stage to take photo's etc for Web site. Would somebody let me know the details and travel arrangements. My car will be available so I can offer 3 people lifts etc.

Cheers Guys

Peter W.

Date:

9/20/2004

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10:15:04 AM

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Peter

The senior men's event starts at 2pm and from our point of view will last approx 1 hr 48 mins!

The venue is at Sutton Park, Sutton Coalfield.

We normally take the M69, A5 then turn off for Sutton Coalfield

turlo

Date:

9/20/2004

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10:19:38 AM

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Thanks to all those who turned out to the training day at Sutton Park yesterday

hopefully this will make a difference next weekend.

Well done to Simon Cotton, Neil Carter, Ryan Falkner, Paul Miles, Rob Orr, Tonto Walker, Gaz Davis, Simon Posh May, Dan Doyle and Callum Cullen for turning up.

turlo

Date:

9/20/2004

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11:14:10 AM

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Nice one Turlo & Wayne for organising said training event!!! Bloody hard work but most enjoyable. Good to get a good number of our athletes together for training, preparation, communication etc. Magic.

Predictions for our A-team:

Cotto- 17:52, Mappy- 17:55, O'neill- 18:26, Brommers- 18:15, Ryan- 17:51, Milo- 17:49. Total time- 1hr 48mins 8 secs.

Cartier (In a whole world of pain this morning!!)

Date:

9/20/2004

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1:15:53 PM

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Appologies for Sunday chaps,

Jo was meant to take her parents to Heathrow but was not well enough hence I had to take them instead. In the panic the mobile was left at home so I couldn't get in touch until later.

I will be there on Saturday fit and well though.

Anything interesting come of Sunday or are the predictions based on that?

Brommers

Date:

9/20/2004

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1:48:51 PM

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Training day went well,same people missing tho.What we Lack in our club is what we will reap later,we will miss out by just that much.However,we are still able to win this weekend.

kEEP ME AWAY FROM TEAM MANAGEMENT BCOS WE WONT HAVE A TEAM.iF WE CANT GET PEOPLE TO TRAINING CAMPS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR 3 MONTHS,THEN THOSE PEOPLE WOULDNT GET IN THE TEAM,IF WE DIDNT HAVE A STRONG ENOUGH TEAM THEN I WOULDNT ENTER ONE.

If people disagree with this approach then they ought to get on to those who frequently xxxx about with the clubs efforts to generate team spirit and performance.If these people dont subscribe to these concepts i would tell them to go and we can start afresh with those youngsters that do. ww

Date:

9/20/2004

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1:50:18 PM

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Hello there Mr Bromley!!

When we got your message saying you were at Heathrow, we thought it was just your navigating had gone wrong, I mean Heathrow's no where near Sutton Park!!

Yes indeed, my lovely predictions are based on Sundays training, which was very productive. Simon, Ryan and Milo all seemed to be on form, I was hanging on for dear life.

My predictions for your good self therefore, are a little bit of guess work, as you might well tot round in 18:05, but you might lose your power of castle grey-skull and only do 18:40 (yyyeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhh).

Can't wait 'til Saturday, there'll be blood all around Keeper's Pool (And that's just Crippin eating the Swans).

Cheers, Cartier. (Can you tell I have more frees on Monday)

Date:

9/20/2004

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2:03:33 PM

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I'd just like tell everyone that Mr Hmmmm is a complete idiot!

The messages that he left on my answer phone were very very worrying. Even wayne thought that he needs help.

Turlo

Date:

9/20/2004

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2:06:16 PM

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2pm start on saturday lads

me and sir ww will be getting there for 11.30

will be setting up a club tent near the starting area

ON TO VICTORY

UP THE OWLS

TURLO

Date:

9/20/2004

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2:44:30 PM

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Someone has obviously been imitating me Turdo as I have not left any messages on your phone - I don't have your number hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Perhaps it was that bloke from your dogging session the week before in Western park

I certainly did not write the time predictions for the six stage as it would have read a little different that those written

Bummers 18.05 - no chance hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Date:

9/20/2004

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3:20:32 PM

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Boyz,

Sorry about not making the training session yesterday. See you Saturday.

Doran

Date:

9/20/2004

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4:13:55 PM

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It looks like there is more than one Mr Hhmmmm then!

I left my number on here months ago for one of the lads and this idiot must of saved it because he left me some very worrying messages a last week!

Will be in the Cropston Car Park tonight if you want to meet me Mr Hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Will be have a pint of bass in the badgers set

HMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

turlo

Date:

9/20/2004

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4:37:09 PM

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Cheers Turlo hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I am a little busy tonight mate so unfortunatly I will have to give it a miss!

Another time maybe hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Date:

9/20/2004

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4:46:57 PM

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neil and rob-you were loving my conversation with you while you were at that cross country fixture.

well, looking forward to beating doran on saturday and carry on reversing the trend that he set while i was fooked over the summer. what does wayne say doran? your only as good as your last race? the last time i remember that was the 2k steeple where i blew you out the back door while decelerating myself.love 2. and you carter-i'm going to put you away as well. and you swoop-i'm going to put you away as well. and you meakin-i'm going to put you away as well. and you oneill-alrite i think i'll stop there

l8rz franko p.s if you haven't gathered i'm going to be quite happy to make the start line this weekend. 1 year out-i'm back,slightly fatter, a lot more unfit, mentally there obviously and oh yeah looking forward to put doran away

that was

LOOKING FORWARD TO PUTTING DORAN AWAY

Date:

9/20/2004

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5:11:11 PM

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FRANKO

WE CAN ARRANGE IT SO THAT YOU AND DORAN DO THE 1ST LEG AT THE 6 STAGE

FRANKO YOU WOULD HAVE TO RUN IN THE C TEAM THOUGH AS I KIND OF PROMISED DORAN HE'S IN THE B TEAM

UPTO YOU BUD

TURLO

Date:

9/20/2004

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5:27:35 PM

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Yes i can vouch that whoever left the answerphone msg on turlos phone is deeply troubled!wasnt you was it crip?! ww

Date:

9/20/2004

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5:49:38 PM

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wayne are you up for an old spec this week?

just the 1 to keep me sane!

turlo

Date:

9/20/2004

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6:14:52 PM

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is team management about to make its first mistake.

c team turlo?

l8rz franko

Date:

9/20/2004

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7:10:47 PM

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agreed UP THE OWLS !!!!!!!

Date:

9/20/2004

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7:31:46 PM

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Team Management,

Which team am i in? If it is the B team may i run 1st leg,if that is at all possible? Thanks a bunch.

Rory

Date:

9/20/2004

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8:31:16 PM

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Thanks for the info for Saturday. It's been a while since I've been to Sutton Park where exactly on the park do we all meet. I shall speak to Jason about taking him does anyone else need a lift if so what time do you expect the team to arrive.

Cheers

Peter W.

p.s. just chucked my motorbike down the road and probably wrote it off so noit feeling a happy bunny right now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date:

9/20/2004

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10:33:12 PM

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B and C teams will be decided over the next few days

Franko you love it!

turlo

Date:

9/21/2004

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10:10:55 AM

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hmmmmmm is a benny

Date:

9/21/2004

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12:45:48 PM

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Owls 10

3rd 00:56:49 Powell Mark M Unaffiliated

only 4 secs down on Deacon over 10 miles on a very hot day!

SIGN HIM UP!

turlo

Date:

9/21/2004

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12:47:40 PM

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RE: OWLS VEST USED BY SAFFRON LANE SECTION

AM STILL WAITING FOR THE CONTACT DETAILS FOR OUT SUPPLIERS FROM OUT KIT MAN.

I KNWO THE COMPANY IS FAST TRACK BUT THATS ABOUT IT FOR NOW

IAn t

Date:

9/21/2004

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1:34:24 PM

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wayne my mate has just told me that he went to the Oadby Owl last night and they have Old Spec and Abbot Ale on guest!

Never been there so not sure what the place is like

any comments?

turlo

Date:

9/21/2004

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1:49:09 PM

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Justa quickie from the Carter.

Wayne/Turlo/etc- Can't make training tonight, I have a GCSE retake assignment meeting late after school. It's only a one off, so will be back next Tues.

Cheers lads, NC.

Date:

9/21/2004

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2:35:29 PM

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ok cartier

but you might get demoted to the g team!

love 2

turlo

Date:

9/21/2004

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3:41:07 PM

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I dunno Turlo, E team sounds more like it, come on!!!

NC

Date:

9/21/2004

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4:55:03 PM

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why would rory be in the b team?

to put in a good b team performance i reckon you would need me and doran in the b team actually.

i take it rory you want to be on 1st leg to try and put the a team away--yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhh rory you sly great glen fox

loving the team speculation but as turlo said its down to team management at the end of the day.

rory,meakin, franko, doran, swoop, carter. what about rob orrs possee or are they too young?

oh yeah and doran stop sending me abusive text messages. if theres on thing that illness gives you its mental strength, even though i lost all my fitness i still got that.

LET BATTLE COMMENCE -cant wait to drown in all this talk when i run sh/t on saturday.

franko

what positon will the b team finish? eh turlo

sounds like theres quite a bit of camaradory going on and p/ss taking for the b team eh wayne like it should be, but we aint heard ought from the a team.

its all gone quiet,its all gone quiet in the a team!!!!

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9/21/2004

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lets hope it aint a repeat of the pace relays

1st home-owls c- jason williams

2nd home-owls b -james franklin

3rd home-owls a - ryan lyianeezz

Date:

9/21/2004

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5:14:40 PM

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oadby owl turlo-scumville when i was there

probably alright now

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9/21/2004

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TO BE HONEST I THINK THE B TEAM WILL DO BETTER THAN LAST YEAR. ON THE OTHER HAND BOYCE WAS IN THE B TEAM AND RAN 18.30 WHICH HAD A HUGE IMPACT COSIDERING THE REST OF THE LADS RAN BETWEEN 20 AND 21 MINS

DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE FITNESS STATUS OF FRANKO, DORAN AND ARCHER TO MAKE ANY PREDICTIONS.

TO BE HONEST THE B TEAM PLACES ARE STILL UP FOR GRABS AND THERE ARE 8 RUNNERS IN CONTENTION TO FILL 6 PLACES

BOYCE AND BRIDGES ARN'T RUNNING AND THEY WOULD OF MADE A BIG IMPACT

TURLO

PS. RORY WASN'T SELECTED FOR THE A TEAM AS O'NEIL PUT HIM AWAY AT THE A AND L. WE ALSO FELT O'NEIL HAD MORE SPECFIC 5KM TRAINING BEHIND HIM WHERE AS RORY HAD BEEN CONCENTRATING ON 800 AND 1500 OVER THE SUMMER AND WILL TAKE A WHILE LONGER TO GET INTO CROSS COUNTRY/ROAD RACE MODE

WE HAD 8 RUNNERS TO CHOOSE FROM FOR THE A TEAM AND TO BE HONEST WE HAVE NEVER BEEN IN SUCH A GOOD POSITION FROM A SELECTION POINT OF VIEW

HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE

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9/21/2004

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Alright guys, ill be doing a run on grass tonight so wont be at Saffron lane,might come down after though, cheers Dan

Date:

9/22/2004

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Teams for saturday:

A Team 1. Cotton 2. Mappy 3. Chris 4. Bromley 5. Ryan 6. Miles.

B Team 1. Rory 2. Meakin 3. Doran 4. Franklin 5. Alex Ainge 6. Archer (to confirm)

C Team 1. Carter 2. Doyle 3. Jay Williams 4. Rob Orr 5. ? 6. ?

Will try and sort out a remaining 2 runners for the C team but there have been a few people pull out and we may stuggle to get a full team. Ian, can we let the people know who dont read the web site as discussed. If anyone has got problems getting a lift give either me or Ian a ring. 2 pm start.

Chris

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9/22/2004

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Alright OWLs boys 'n' girls!!

Chris/Turlo- I have had a slight accident!!! Yesterday after school I went for an easy run. It was about half seven as I'd been in a meeting, so it was getting dark.

Whilst keeping to grass, my left leg managed to fall down a rabbit hole of some sort (don't laugh, I'm not joking!). I seemed to twist my left knee outwards and I think I've damaged the outer ligaments, as it bloody hurt at the time, and is painful to walk on, feels like the bottom half of my leg is going to fall off!!

At the moment, it looks grim to be able to run Saturday, as at the minute there's no way I can run on it. I'm just hoping it isn't going to be too long term an injury.

The word "Bugger" springs to mind.

Cartier

P.S. Franko- Don't laugh you scheister, I can't believe I've been felled by a rabbit.

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9/22/2004

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1:02:10 PM

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Turlo,

I don't mind running a second leg if needs be to help the c team finish.

Doran

Date:

9/22/2004

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1:04:20 PM

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CARTIER - YOU LOVE IT!

TURLO

Date:

9/22/2004

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2:24:10 PM

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hi any bhoys wanna chat

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9/22/2004

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2:24:15 PM

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hi any boys wanna chat

Date:

9/22/2004

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3:56:37 PM

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no this chat page is for over 16's only

Ian T

Date:

9/22/2004

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Afternoon Lads,

Urm..... was wundering if anybody can give me a lift on saturday,im not working on saturdays anymore so i dont need to get home early like last time. I can meet somebody somewhere if needs be.

Tar very much

Rory

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9/22/2004

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10:39:09 PM

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predictions for the three stage sutton park

callum first leg 13.14 simon second leg 14.00 gaz third leg 13.5

these prediction are based on the results from the al 3 k race and not the cross country

ow yea wayne where the f.ck where u tonight we were freezing out side whilst u were nice and warm with those club house keys in ur grasp

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9/22/2004

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10:44:46 PM

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callum i came 1 second behind u at the 3k road race

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9/22/2004

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don't swear on the chat page Smee

good look at the weekend

turlo

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9/23/2004

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mind your lip smeeeee.I can see you becoming a right gobbby bxxxxxx as you get better and older. ww sorry about the clubhouse keys and denying you of all those comforts a young british distance runner cant do without! good luck at the weekend...pstheres no clubhouse there,hope it dont affect you too much.

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9/23/2004

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11:02:25 AM

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Team mngmt & Wayne,

Great timing this one but I came down with a sore throat and cold yesterday so couldn�t train. I �ll run this lunchtime to see how I feel and see what the after effects are.

Can�t really do any more than that. I will put a note on here tomorrow to let you how I get on. I suppose it will be up to you to decide if Rory should replace me.

Brommers

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9/23/2004

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Ok Brommers

Let us know asap how you get on.

Taking on extra vit C and E may help you recover quicker from cold and sore throat.

If you can get hold of some pure vit c and e tablets then that might do the trick

Multi vits arn't really that good so you need to get pure vit c and e tablets

will put rory on standby

turlo

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9/23/2004

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Currently OD'ing on Vit C tablets and OJ. If I run though there will be a trail of s### behind me.

Brommers

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9/23/2004

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GOOD THAT WILL GIVE THEM KENYANS RUNNING FOR BIRCHFIELD SOMETHING TO SLIP UP ON!

have put rory on standby and am awaiting for a fitness report from wayne as we don't really know what shape rory is in after the track season and morocco!

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9/23/2004

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2:29:10 PM

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Which fraudulently re named Kenyan would we be talking about? Would that be Frank Jones (real name Noah Kiplegat).

Date:

9/23/2004

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2:47:28 PM

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turlo it wasnt a swear word

Date:

9/23/2004

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3:07:17 PM

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WAYNE NEED A FITNESS UPDATE ON RORY ASAP

TURLO

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9/23/2004

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4:39:58 PM

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BROMKNEE

TRY TAKING TWO VITAMIN C TABLETS FROM 9 EGG CUPS LAID OUT IN A ROW. I'VE SEEN YOU DEAL WITH THIS BEFORE AND DID IT QUITE WELL. YOU WILL BE RIGHT AS RAIN BY SATURDAY, SO STOP MAKING EXCUSES AS THATS WHAT I'LL BE DOING ON THE DAY AFTER MY RUN.LETS LEAVE IT TILL THEN EH.

FAILING THAT GET THE LOVELY JO TO GET THE TEAPOT BREWING WITH SOME ECHANACEA TEA BAGS

LOVE 2 FRANKO

OH YEAH DORAN YOUR GOING DOWN.YOU LOVE IT

P.S FIRST CARTER, NOW BROMKNEE, WHO'S NEXT?

WELL ITS FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK THAT QUESTION FRANKLIN? IS IT? YES IT IS FRANKLIN.OH RIGHT THEN. CUZ I HAVE HAD A COLD AS WELL, BUT DIDN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING INCASE I WAS DEMOTED TO THE Z TEAM!!!DONT WORRY DORAN I'LL BE ALRIGHT BY SATURDAY.

P.S WAYNE-MAKE SURE THE LITTLE GINGER SCHEISTER TURNS UP IF YOU CAN. OR HAS HE GOT A BRIDGE JUMPING FESTIVAL TO GO TO?

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9/23/2004

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4:47:26 PM

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franko

funny you should mention it but Archer got nicked on tuesday night and is not sure if he can make it now!

turlo

Date:

9/24/2004

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whats the latest news on the illness brommers?

turlo

Date:

9/24/2004

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Turlo,

Just a head cold now so I should be fine to run.

Brommers

Date:

9/24/2004

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Carter,

I'll be coming up tomorrow morning.

See you boyz at the race.

Doran

Date:

9/24/2004

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Carter has one thing to say:

This is f**kin' it boyzz, tomorrow is the day of reckoning against the rest of the Midlands, let's kick some ass!!!!

NC (Oh yeah, knee still buggered)

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9/24/2004

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Good news that is Brommers

As long as you are 90% and in sub 18.30 shape then we should leave you in the team.

But if you feel that the cold will have a major affect on your performance (or your not sure) and you might run say 19 mins, then we should consider Rory.

Keep us updated

turlo

ps. does that mean you can't run cartier?

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9/24/2004

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2:43:01 PM

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Just to remind you all that we will be holding a social event on saturday night

Would be great if we could get all of the lads out for a nice meal. Italian or mexican would be great!!!!

turlo

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9/24/2004

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Hey man, just a short message for those running tomorow, good luck brothers, the kids have too learn the skills in the water so i wont be there, duty calls.. Remember i took the vow "I do sollumly swear to teach..Swimming!" Enjoy the pain and except the pleasure boys... Im away, The Cat....................

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9/24/2004

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3:28:33 PM

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ok ladders

turlo

Date:

9/24/2004

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4:12:09 PM

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don't get to excited boys! did you know the Wreake lads are sending a team to the midland six stage relays. never mind the top ten, we're aiming to finish in the top 100 for the first time.

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9/24/2004

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4:14:50 PM

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good luck to wreake

just put that idiot from charnwood away!

turlo

Date:

9/24/2004

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4:50:26 PM

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which one from charnwood do you mean?

Date:

9/24/2004

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4:54:56 PM

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The one who comes on here slagging the owls off and has no clue what he is talking about!

you?

turlo

Date:

9/24/2004

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no its not me!

Good Luck To the Owls Lads and you can go one better this year!

We Will be cheering you on at the keepers pool!

Don't leave before our team has completed.

thanks

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9/24/2004

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5:05:28 PM

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I'M A BIT WORSE FOR WEAR TODAY DORAN-JUST THOUGHT I'D LET YOU KNOW

MILES-GIVE US A RING

FRANKO

RABBIT, RABBIT, RABBIT

Date:

9/24/2004

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5:06:32 PM

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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE CARTER? FREAKIN ALICE IN WONDERLAND. WERE YOU FOLLOWING THE MAD HARE WITH HIS WAISTCOAT AND POCKET WATCH ON YOUR LAST RUN?

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9/24/2004

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5:11:33 PM

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cheers mate

glad to see there are some supportive poeple out there

the country needs to be working together!

turlo

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9/24/2004

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cheers mate

glad to see there are some supportive people out there

the country needs to be working together!

turlo

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9/24/2004

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Turlo,

I should be fine, just had a very easy week to taper. Without going out and running 4 miles flat out I won't know how it has affected me.

Felt OK yesterday running and I feel better today so there you go.

See y'all tomorrow. Off home so contact me by my mobile if you need.

Brommers

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9/24/2004

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7:22:44 PM

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simon go on msn and we will make arrangements for sun in the 3 stage road race

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9/24/2004

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7:22:58 PM

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simon go on msn and we will make arrangements for sun in the 3 stage road race

Date:

9/24/2004

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8:51:05 PM

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Yes lads day of reckoning 'number one'tommorow,and plenty more after that...BUT tommorow is out most important race for some time.We have the ability...lets see a bit of blood...no shying away chaps,we need to know how to win at this level,tommorow is our first test lets not xxxx up.

ww

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9/25/2004

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The roads gonna burn, or get slightly lukewarm

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9/25/2004

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12:25:35 PM

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No...the road IS going to burn. ww

Date:

9/25/2004

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9:47:29 PM

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Well the talking is over and the results are in. I suspect a slightly disapointed OWLS A Team are currently drowning their sorrows with a bevy or two.

Results of the Midlands 6 Stage Relays at Sutton Park on 25/09/04 are as follows :-

                           A Team                                                                B Team

A Leg     Simon Cottom 10th in 18.14                           Rory Fraser 21st in    19.01

B Leg     Nick Mapp 13th in       19.17                            Tom Meakin 23rd in  20.20

C Leg    Chris O'Neil 8th in       18.44                             Tim Doran 27th in      20.55

D Leg     Rich Bromley 5th in    18.43                            James Franklin 25th in 20.29

E Leg     Ryan Faulkner 6th in   18.39                            Alex Dinge 30th in        22.22

H Leg     Paul Miles 5th in         18.21                             Jason Williams 30th in   20.36

         Total running time of      1. 51.58                             Total running time of    2.03.43

The event was won by Birchfield Harriers in 1.48.24    with Notts AC 2nd   in 1.48.34  and Bristol 3rd in  1.49.06. Coventry Godiva 4th in 1.51.39 and OWLS AC 5th.

A Total of 105 Teams started the event

Charnwood finished 13th, Coritanians 35th, Harborough 40th, Hinckley 60th and Wreake 65th to complete the County placings.

Photo's to follow shortly.

Peter W. Web Site Editor.

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9/26/2004

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Long before humans started playing games, natural selection discovered the fundamentals of game theory and shaped animal societies according to its rules. Within species, individuals adopt alternative competing strategies with frequencies that reflect the success of each strategy. Evolutionary Stable Strategies occur when alternative competing strategies are at equilibrium. Competition within species has generated many Evolutionary Stable Strategies with colourful titles like: Bourgeois, Scrounger, Sneaky, Satellite, Transvestite, and Sex-change. However, co-operation within and between species has generated only one Evolutionary Stable Strategy., TIT FOR TAT.

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9/26/2004

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8:38:32 PM

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Photo's of Saturdays Racing at Sutton Park now added to Junior Photo Page also the Photo page has been re-arranged with latest photo's now at the beginning if you guys have some more pics of Saturday please let me have them either on disk or via E mail.

Cheers

Peter. W.

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9/26/2004

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that has got to be the biggest load of bob that i have ever heard and, who wrote it because there is a number of errors in it.

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9/26/2004

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9:47:29 PM

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smee would like to say that he enjoyed the 3 stage raod relays and is looking forward to the cross country on sat, ow year where is stiffy

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9/27/2004

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9:54:27 AM

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Well done to the under 13,s and 17,s who competed in the young athletes road relays yesterday

U13's finished 9th while the U17's finished 5th and only 20 secs of a medal!

Well done to Gaz, Smee and Posh who were all bottom of the age group!

Ian T

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9/27/2004

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smee is at school

Date:

9/27/2004

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11:11:37 AM

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How about loss of status within a social group.How about Maslow's hierarchy of human needs,how about individuals knowing (they dont always naturally know)of their potential as athletes/human beings and then knowing they could achieve it and then realising they are bone idle bxxxxrds(which will see a loss of the rewards this may bring to support their natural inclination for survival...ie social predeterminants of natural selection/alliances etc)How about tribal culture.Didnt dinosaurs have friends.

Theres a bit more crap for you to consider.Get the miles in or xxxx off. ww

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9/27/2004

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11:14:33 AM

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yes well done the under 17s an excellent performance.Very inspiring.Our future looks rosey...just our present we have to work on!! ww

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9/27/2004

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Post 6 Stage analysis:

Well below par performance all round.

In some cases this was due to the athlete just coming out the track season where training has been very specific towards 800m and 1500m

Some were coming off the back of illnesses

In some cases it was just due to a lack of fitness, poor prep and a complacency that they will be in the team.

Gone are the days where athletes can rely on natural talent with a few weeks hard training leading up to the event.

Gone are the days of having no specific aims over the summer and just ticking over.

We now have the weapons to win events such as the 6 stage, birm league and midland x country BUT we really our weapons firing on all cylinders if this is going to happen.

This season could be the season that the Owls arrive at senior level.

We have the athletes to do it now BUT its going to take a great deal of hard work, dedication, COMMUNICATION WITH THE CLUB, team spirit etc etc

The squad needs to be training together on a regular basis for us to achieve our goals

The first birmingham league fixture is just over a month away. This will be when the season really starts so lets not screw up on this one!

We will also have to consider whether we want to do the national 6 stage as the racing program around this time is quite hectic and we don't want to be over racing in the early season like last year.

I cant's see the point in us entering the national unless we are going to make an impact in the top 10 and this will mean the team having to improve by at least 3 mins!

The team management are going to have to question their approach and ways of improving communication between the whole club and getting those who are not living in the area more involved

More later

turlo

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9/27/2004

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12:47:54 PM

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good morning then turlo!

Date:

9/27/2004

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1:14:22 PM

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yeah something like that!

Please note that im not slagging anyone off here.

Im just pointing out why we were below par.

As part of the team management i feel there is going to have to be an inquest into the process of selecting future teams and getting regular feedback on those which we do not see as often. Also there was a selection process laid out but only 50% of out athletes for both teams went through this process.

In the future we may have to inforce the selection process 100%

ie. if you don't do the selection races and training weekends then your not in the team

turlo

Date:

9/27/2004

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1:16:08 PM

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DORAN

THERES QUITE A LOT YOU CAN DO IN 26 SECONDS -TIE MY RUNNING SHOE LACES UP - SAY YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH REPEATEDLY WITH NEIL AND RORY ON THE START LINE BEFORE SETTING OFF.

SURPRISING REALLY ANYWAY BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME DORAN. BE CAREFUL AS I'M MOVING UP TO 4 RUNS A WEEK SOON. THEN WHERE WILL YOU BE?

FRANKO HAD A GOOD WEEKEND LADS.SEE YOU ALL AT THE NEXT FIXTURES

P.S 2-0 DORAN

PPS MEAKIN YOU RUSSIAN *******. I'M COMING FOR YOU NEXT

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9/27/2004

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1:36:17 PM

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Franklin- "I'm not switching this internet off until you tell me you love it. And you've got to mean it"

NC

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9/27/2004

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"Go on Franko. Tell me you love it. I'm not switching off until you do"

"You've gotta shout it out. Go on."

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9/27/2004

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2:07:17 PM

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say it like you mean it fronk

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9/27/2004

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2:13:15 PM

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The selection process outlined for the 6 stage was as follows

1: A&L 5km Road Race

2: Training session at Sutton Park

Out of all the athletes in the club ONLY 4 went through this process (2 of which didn't do the 6 stage due to injury)

Another 4 went through part of this process ie did the A&L or training weekend

Well done To Simon Cotton, Paul Miles, Neil Carter and Dan Doyle for going through the full selection process!

turlo

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9/27/2004

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Say you love it Franko.

PS 2:2 this year I think you'll find.

Doran

Date:

9/27/2004

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3:32:03 PM

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Turlo,

What's your email?

Doran

Date:

9/27/2004

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3:43:11 PM

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I think we need to be a little careful about taking such a hard line about people not attending sessions etc. Whilst it is unfair for Wayne et al to give up their time and for people simply to ignore this it is also unrealistic to expect 100% attendance all of the time.

It is difficult enough for some of us to ensure they can attend races let alone fit in other weekend sessions. The fact 4 people are singled out implies the others are being criticised and I don�t like that, if the management have issues with individuals then they should be addressed to that individual and the use of �catch-all� criticisms should stop. Better to have 1 real issue with 1 person then inadvertently piss off 10.

Until people live my life and juggle the things I try to juggle then they don�t have the right to criticise my commitment. Rightly or wrongly my priorities revolve around keeping the roof over my head, maintaining the relationship I am in and running.

I am not single, live at home, in Leicester, have sole access to a car�

We can only do what we can and if compulsory sessions are used for selection without regard for an individuals situation then running gets pushed further DOWN the priority list, not up it.

Just my thoughts, bearing in mind it is Monday and I just had a crap meeting.

Brommers

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9/27/2004

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4:51:13 PM

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Thanks for the feedback Rich!

Sorry to sound too critical but the point I was making about the the selection process was that such a small % of the club went through at least part of the selection process (we do have approx 140 seniors) and it makes it very difficult to get the best team out for imp events such as the 6 stage when you don't know whos in what shape.

Personally I feel the selection process set out gave the athletes the opportunity to attend one of the two set selection events. Attendance over the 2 selection events was better ie. we had 8 go through 1 of the 2 selection events (Brommers, Meako, Carter, Cotton, Falkner, Doyle, O'neil, Milo, Fraser).

Basically its very hard to assess peoples fitness for a major event when you've not seen them in action for a while.

In my opinion the team management is currently only about 70% effective and me chris and wayne need to look at ways of improving this and getting those on the fringe more involved. What the club has done well over the past year or two is to get a high % of its athletes out to all major and semi major fixtures

There is still a great deal of work to be done though.

We now have the weapons to do some real damage this x country season.

midland x country champions

victory in the 1st 2 birm leagues

top 5 in nat relays and x country champs!

more later

turlo

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9/27/2004

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Agreed in that there has to be a way of proving fitness prior to selection and I know me agreeing with that whilst still holding true to my comment before does make it dificult.

I do think that the fact a session was planned a long way in advance for the week before means that you (the mngmt) did as much as can be expected. I was able to attend except for my last minute problem.

Did you get reasons for all the other non attendees?

Brommers

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9/27/2004

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To be honest we did get a few of the lads who said they couldn't make it for a variety of reasons and a few dropping out in the week or two before as we didn't really chase people up and get a definate program of activities out and they simply forgot about it.

The other problems were internal between the management as basically what we do is designate a group of athletes to each person and then make sure that they are kept fully informed. Sometimes we simply forget to chase people up in good time and leave it till a week before and by that time other plans have been made.

I know that this is where wayne thinks the team management could improve. One of the other things that have been mentioned is that the management are a bit soft at times. Eg. If i say that im going to contact people about races and then don't then i should be b*ll*cked and if an athlete turns round and says that they can't do the midland champs without much of an explanation then questions should be asked. Upto now this probably hasn't happened and we will be looking to maximise our effectiveness over the next few months. Of course we have to be careful about giving the impression that we are slagging people off and something i will have to improve on as a get older.

The end result will be the whole squad going into championship races better prepared than we have ever been before until we eventually get it perfect. The day we do get it perfect will be the day we win a national title as we certainly have the potential within the club to do so. We now have a squad of quality athletes who can achieve great things. What we can promise is that we currently have a group or 8 14-16 year olds who will be coming through in the next 5 years and then you've still got the likes of meakin, fraser and miles who are still very young. This to go along with our current crop of maturing seniors will be a force to be reckoned with!

more later!

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9/28/2004

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Lads we have to seriously consider what fixtures over the next month we want to do

Mid X this weekend

23rd oct Nat Road

30th oct Birm league 1

6th Nov Nat relays

I feel that its important to make a major impact in 1-2 races rather than a medium impact in all four.

We also have to consider the individual ie is doing 3 races on the trot going to risk injury, result in an early peak or effect early season training volumes

I feel that the lads were over raced early last season as we were trying to cover too many events.

Any thoughts?

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9/28/2004

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2:14:53 PM

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Unless we are all going to run 30-40 seconds quicker then the National Road relays are somewhere we are not going to make an impact. If we are training properly for the X season then I don't think this is condusive to running considerably faster over 6K on the road.

The first Birm Lge and the national X relays are a better bet and in the latter it would be good if we can get effectively 2 'A' teams.

A top 3 sweep at the county cross, medal at the midland cross with 3 individuals in the top 10.

Brommers

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9/28/2004

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3:17:15 PM

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Totally agreed Rich

will be contacting the rest of the lads this week to see what they think.

I know wayne was thinking along the same lines as that

turlo

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9/28/2004

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3:33:15 PM

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Some key duathlon events coming up lads. I hope you going to be fit for them.

Loving it

Doran

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9/28/2004

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3:44:40 PM

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Does Jeff Matthews still exist or has he put down his zimmer. Hope you are ok

Carl Emery

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9/28/2004

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4:13:01 PM

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Say it like you mean it Doran

You should be banned from this site for making comments like that!

love 2

turlo

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9/28/2004

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4:45:59 PM

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I love it turlo!!!

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9/29/2004

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10:40:44 AM

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wayne i think me and you should to stop going to the horse and groom for the best pint of old spec in the land before i become addicted!

franko did you get my message last night?

cartier hows your knee? when will the next lot of fleeces come in?

doran stop sending me e-mails outlining what duathlons your planning to do. you love it but i don't!

love 2 to all

turlo

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9/29/2004

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11:34:39 AM

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got your email turlo

very funny and yet disturbing at the same time.what a contrast!!

franko

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9/29/2004

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1:58:23 PM

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Mr Hmmmmmmmmmm you have been spotted on the university athletics forum

and i thought you were an old boy!

turlo

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9/29/2004

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6:47:49 PM

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Ezy boyzzz, Cartier here!!!

The knee is feeling much better, I might even try a nice jog tonight, see if I can get round without my bottom part of my leg falling off. J'aime deux.

Fleeces should be here shortly, never fear Turlo!!

Are we just doing the Senneleys park race then, followed by the X-C relays? Also, any dates on edale or something (like I'm in any state to complete one of those!!)

Cheers lads. NC

P.S. Franko- you never said you love it.

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9/29/2004

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11:31:27 PM

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Just to let you know we wont be defending our title on Saturday as its an insignificant race and the lads would be better training through and avoiding over racing in the early season.

Brommers, Falkner, Fraser and Milo would of walked it like last year anyway and there's not much room for anymore trophies in the clubhouse.

turlo

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9/30/2004

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11:18:44 AM

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Going to see some great battles between franko and doran this season!

loving your messages yoiu've been sending me doran!

hope you enjoyed mine last night franko. Im off to the first aid room now franko for the first installment of the day!

ON TO VICTORY

turlo

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9/30/2004

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12:12:31 PM

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Worked out that we had approx 80-100 kids down last night at saffron lane

Thats before we have started advertising for the winter!

Sending leaflets out to every secondary school this week and handing out leaflets at the primary schools cross country this weekend! We are now the proud sponsors of the Leicestershire Primary Schools League and are providing them with approx 5000 certificates over the winter!

This club can really go places

turlo

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9/30/2004

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4:35:35 PM

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The cartier went for a run down Saff Lane last night, little bit sluggish but not too bad!! Knee a little stiff (like Franko when he sees a fit bird in Oporto) this morning, but hopefully will do another light run this afternoon.

NC

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9/30/2004

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11:50:46 PM

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Ewan Maccoll is a better singer and and song writer then Bob Dylan. Discuss

The Manchester Rambler.

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10/1/2004

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12:01:50 PM

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What! Are you serious?

There is no one in the same class as Dylan.A challenge for you...ask ANY songwriter or song writing critic (and i mean ANY) and ask them if Dylan is top of the PREMIER Div how many more songwriters are there in the 2nd division ...because hes at least two divisions above anyone else.Love him or hate him,he is unique in this sense.

Tho i will look out for this chap you are on about

John Lennon.

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10/1/2004

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2:00:25 PM

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Maccoll ability far exceeds Dylan. This man invokes the hardship of modern industrial life and yet sang songs of pastoral lyricism about Kinder Scout and Scarfell. His songs stretch from "Black And White" about the Sharpsville massacre to the" First Time I ever Saw your Face"(original sang with Polly Seeger(Mrs Maccoll), later by Roberta Flack)). The "Joy Of Living" is superb in it's emotive lesson for life and living, from a man approaching death.

Maccoll draw from from Scottish and English folk tradition to create contemporise songs and yet could sing tradition songs with great authority and beauty. Listen to the "Highland Muster" and not feel the passion of the Jacobite Clans. Listen to the "Ye Shoals of Herrings" and not imagine yourself on deck singing and bringing in the catch.

Che

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10/1/2004

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2:25:12 PM

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Who's Bob Dylan?

I thought this was a running and duathlon Web site.

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10/1/2004

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4:15:41 PM

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fxxxoff doran.

mcoll aint fit to string Dylans guitar or disinfect his harmonica.

ww

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10/1/2004

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4:23:47 PM

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Love it Wayne!!!

NC

Smeeeee- where are you?? (Coooobbbb)

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10/1/2004

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5:47:11 PM

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Well done to the OWLS for finishing 5th at the Midland Six Stage. This was one position better than i previously predicted, although some teams did field significantly weakened squads!

It should be interesting at the National Six Stage to see whether OWLS or Charnwood are first Leicestershire team. With the inclusion of Paul Richardson and Tim Hartley i predict Charnwood to triumph.

Why are the OWLS Senior Men not defending their title at Brooksby on Saturday? This could be your only chance of success this winter already missed?

It is amusing after all the hype in the run up to the Midland Six Stage from this club it did not take long for the wheels to come off the OWLS bandwagon!

Che

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10/1/2004

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5:54:51 PM

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Wayne and Turlo,

I did not write the last article.

Tom Meakin Snr.

Date:

10/1/2004

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7:21:48 PM

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We still beat you by over 5 minutes and we were signifcicantly weakened too.

Why do you slag us off when Owls and Charnwood have always got on as far as local rivals go!

YOU are giving CHARNWOOD a bad name!

turlo

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10/1/2004

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8:49:28 PM

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Great News as you can see from the Index Page I have Launched a New Discussion Forum with many advanced features.

The Old Forum is still on the web I shall put a special link in that will allow reading but NO new additions.

This is a major step forward in having a " profesional" looking Forum.

It does require you to log in and create your own user profile if you wish to create or reply to any topic.

This will then allow me to have more control if necessary.

I intend that the Chat Page will also follow this route shortly and will co-exist with the Forum.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

Good Luck for Saturday in the XC races.

Cheers

Peter W.

Web Site Manager.

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10/1/2004

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9:20:22 PM

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No worries che,i was more concerned about your dylan v maccoll debate!!ha. ww

ps have you noticed we never slag off another team unless they have a go at us...we have more cerebral things to consider and wallow in a sea of phillosophy and good humour.But when we do have a crack at them they dont seem to come back for more.

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10/2/2004

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10:06:42 PM

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I have just created the chat board on our new system as mentioned above, already a few of you have registered ( Simon Cotton, Rich Bromley, Wayne ) If you haven't already taken a look and registered I suggest you do so soon as this page will close for new entries on Saturday 9th Oct. It will then remain for a month on a "read only" basis and then be removed completely.

Cheers

Peter W.

Web Site Manager

OWLS AC Leicester
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